Bedwetting Help – 16-Year-Old Can Now Focus on College

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It is now July 2018 and he is 16 years old and dry at night! Finally, bedwetting help for my teenager.

This summer was the first time ever he was at camp and was dry the entire time.  We also had a vacation with success and did not have to pack all the extras that were needed in the past to protect mattresses from my teenager wetting the bed.

Thanks to your complete understanding of the underlying cause of the bedwetting – deep, deep, sound sleep, and how to “fix it”,  our son now wakes up during thunderstorms and gets up during the night to use the bathroom.  He loves being dry at night and it has taken a big weight off of his mind when he travels and has overnights with friends.

College was also in the back of his mind and now he can look forward to that without the fear of wetting the bed and trying to manage all that goes with it in a dormitory setting.

The staff are very helpful in managing  his program through phone calls and emails.  It’s not necessary to be there in person to be successful. They were responsive to any questions we had and were supportive the entire process.

We can’t thank them enough for their program and are thrilled with the results!  Theresa was an excellent bedwetting counselor! It really helps to have one person working with you, her focus was on my son’s progress. We would recommend the program and wished we hadn’t waited so long to find this remarkable solution.

A thankful family in Texas   2018

Bedwetting Option

Bedwetting – A Good Problem

Why Is Bedwetting A Good Problem To Have?

I have been searching for answers to my son’s bedwetting for seven years.  Yes—seven years!  He is a freshman in high school and would be horrified if he knew I was writing about his “dark secret”, the one that almost strangled the life out of his self-esteem.

Once I understood what was really happening to cause the bedwetting, it completely changed my perspective, as well as my commitment to finding the best treatment for my son.  My background is in process management and root cause analysis.  I wonder why it took me so long to apply this knowledge to my research for my son’s enuresis!

Every night my son slept with the real problem.  However, my husband (the engineer) and I could only focus on the morning failure.  This is what my husband began calling it when our son turned seven.  Then my son began calling it The Failure.  Every morning we tried not to make a big deal of the wet being contained In a diaper, then a pull-up, and then the wet mat.  Even when we did nothing but remove it and throw it away, my son would look at me with sad eyes and even apologize.

I am sure the struggle is the same for parents of an aging bed wetter:  You turn to the pediatrician who dismisses it from the very first time you bring it up – when your child is about to enter first grade, and every visit thereafter until they are tired of hearing you ask, beg, complain; demand a solution.  Next comes a prescription for DDAVP, which I later researched and learn it is called Desmopressin and the side effects are extensive.  My son has always been active in life and active in sports.  We also live year round in a hot climate so hydration is essential.  The physician never explained that dehydration is one of the side effects of this drug.  How crazy is that?

We were directed to another doctor in the building, a urologist.  He explained the steps he needed to take to rule out any internal issues.  I asked about the chances of bedwetting being caused by a physical problem, and was stunned to learn how small the percentage was – less than 2%.   He said he would not make any recommendations until he was satisfied with his test results. In addition to the nighttime wetting, my son was experiencing some daytime issues.  I explained to the urologist that it appeared as if my son was waiting until the last minute to go to the bathroom, and would have some very small accidents if he could not make it to the bathroom in time. At nine, he did not soak his underwear, but he often came home from school and from soccer practice with damp underwear that had a faint odor.  It would be enough for anybody to notice.  If other children were to find out, there’s no telling what would happen.

The urologist told my son an ultrasound was an easy test, and that the results would help him solve the problem.  My son asked if it would hurt.  The urologist was very patient and told him the bladder ultrasound is painless.  All he might feel is a slight pressure as the little flat wand about the size of a cellphone is moved over his stomach.  He explained that he would need to lie down and be very still during the procedure so the sound waves could produce a picture of his bladder and help discover what was happening to cause the bedwetting.  The technician told him I would be in the room with him at all times.

I was thrilled with the explanation and reassured my son. What he failed to explain was the need to drink a great deal of water before the exam so that you arrive in the room with a full bladder.  Sounds simple enough.  Except my son had a history of urgencies and leaking, which the urologist knew from the history, but apparently forgot to place any significance on when it came to being able to hold a full bladder from the time you drink the water until the time you are taken into the technician’s room for the ultrasound.  They failed to tell him about the gown he would have to wear, which he ended up needed to change twice because he kept leaking urine.  This turned out to be a very embarrassing and challenging experience for my little boy.

In the end, the urologist diagnosed a small bladder as well as an inability to completely empty his bladder.  He then proceeded to tell us that this is what was causing all the problems.  He prescribed Ditropan, another drug, of course,  and wanted to set up a timed-voiding program. He told us to purchase an interval watch that would need to be set at two-hour intervals during the day.  He turned to my son and said he could have fun picking out his favorite color, and would be able to wear his colored watch for the next six weeks.  He also told us to make him drink more water during the day.   How do we gauge that while he’s at school…and how much we would considered “more”?  We ended up purchasing this special watch online, and shared with our son that this would fix the bedwetting problem.

Unfortunately the watch drew a great deal of attention and questions from his classmates.  Questions such as why he was wearing a watch that went off all the time.  Why did he need to go to the bathroom during class rather than waiting, etc.  My son ended up not wanting to wear the watch.  He seemed to try to break it, in fact.  Regarding the Ditropan, my son developed a lack of trust in that as well, and every dose given was a struggle.  Fourth graders are way smarter than we give them credit for!

I must confess we stopped trying and simply told our son—parroting the pediatrician—that his body would eventually outgrow this and he would not be wetting the bed as a teenager.  Reflecting back on this, I cannot believe we continued to feed him this type of unfounded reassurance. Even though he continued with the sad eyes every morning he wet the bed, he stopped calling it The Failure, and thank goodness, so did my husband.  In my mind, this meant it did not bother him as much.  How wrong we were to assume something as insidious as waking up wet was the first thing to greet you in the morning was not bothersome.  How is it possible to expect anyone to simply ignore this and simply wait for it to go away?

The bedwetting dragged on, and during the spring of my son’s sixth grade year, he came to us one night and begged us NOT to allow him to go to the sport’s summer camp his friend was attending.   We had avoided discussing summer camp for several years trying to avoid putting any pressure on him.  I was sad to see him miss the childhood joy of sleep away camp.  He told us he was terrified of what anyone would do to him if they found out he wet the bed.   It was an absolute heartbreak for us.

All of that devastation explained….why would we think bedwetting is a good thing?

Because it led us to the truth behind so much more of what made up my son’s experience of life.  The more he turned into a little man, the more we started seeing changes in his mood like irritability.  He wasn’t nearing puberty, and he said he wasn’t having problems at school, so we weren’t sure what was going on.  And as we started to hear from two of his teacher’s that he appeared to be daydreaming or distracted, we were beside ourselves.

The miracle came when we discovered that bedwetting is actually related to sleep.  So it turns out that my son’s style of sleeping was at the bottom of his bedwetting.  And by recognizing that the sleep is actually not good for him, it made things crystal clear to us.  Everything in our son’s life was starting to be challenged by not sleeping well!  So in that sense, bedwetting was good…because finding a company that works with bedwetting and targets sleep to end it, my son was given the opportunity to flourish and function at his best.  There is no better feeling.  From heartbreak to full on joy!  Persistence to find the truth of something is so important.  You have to learn to go beyond what everyone tells you is true or right or wrong or good or bad.  You gotta go for it based on all signs, symptoms, and gut feelings as a parent.  And as a determined and resourceful parent, you find what you need.  Fortunately, you don’t have to figure out how to make the change.  A determined and resourceful mom has already found the solution.  We are ever grateful to the Enuresis Treatment Center for curing my son and liberating him from his cage.  Thank you also to the “mom”, Barbara Moore.  Truly, we cannot thank you enough!

Cheryl Evans,  January 2018

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Stop Bedwetting – Happy 10-Year-Old Boy

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“First of all, I can’t pull this part to I say thank you to the whole team over there. I think it’s only those families who are in the same situation as we were What a huge relief it is for everybody really to get to this point to have a child who is not wetting the bed anymore.

I can say now that I have a happy 10 year old boy who is highly intelligent and proud and confident and happy! For me to be able to see my boy going to a birthday party and sleep over night and have no fear of wetting the bed at someone else’s house is the most important to me.

There was a time when I thought maybe we would maybe never get to this point, but we did it. It’s only because we got into this program to end bedwetting, which i think is wonderful. I had Claudia –wonderful Claudia–all the way supporting us.

I had my moments when all the family found it difficult to keep on going and do the practice and do everything that we were asked to do, but it was worth it….more than worth it.

I would encourage all the families in the world to try this method–to go after the problem– because bedwetting is not something that will just disappear by itself. This is something we are told; that it will disappear through time. I think this is the biggest problem–that we believe in it–and we keep waiting and waiting.

I just couldn’t understand why we didn’t find your bedwetting program sooner.

I’m glad we found it. It’s so logical.”

Miriam G

Sarasota, NY

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Bedwetting Is Complicated

Bedwetting is a totally involuntary phenomenon, and it is complicated.  Most professionals’ suggestions for cure are based upon a fundamental misunderstanding of bedwetting.

42 years of successfully treating bedwetting has proven that no amount of restricting fluids before bed or trips to the bathroom in the middle of the night will put an end to bedwetting.  Drug therapy is only a temporary “fix” for someone who wets the bed and usually leads to another failure experience.

No amount of self-talk before bed can reduce the profound distance from any level of consciousness that the bedwetter’s sleep creates.

We are forever grateful when a parent is willing to take the time to write about not only their experience with our bedwetting programs, but the frustrations and misdirection that occurred trying to solve the problem.

This mom wrote to her private counselors here at the Enuresis Treatment Center and asked that her son’s story be shared with other parents searching for help to put a permanent end to bedwetting.

Hi Jasmine,

Peyton is very confidential about his journey with Enuresis.  So I will tell the story.  We have been working actively on trying to stop the bedwetting since Peyton was 4.  Around the age of 5 we went to a Pediatric urologist in the area, which they are supposed to be renowned.  All they suggested was to stop drinking fluids close to bedtime and for him to take Miralax to help him go to the bathroom daily so that wasn’t adding to the issue.  They also suggested a medication that was supposed to help and encourage him along.  With hesitation we started the medication, and Peyton ended up with one of the side effects, getting overheated when he was active.  I just didn’t feel right about the medication in the first place, so I stopped it.

I tried doing the recommendations from the urologist, and nothing was working.  We pretty much struggled with it for another 4  years, as close family would tell me that he will just grow out of it and to be patient.  Be patient, really?  Do they have any idea what it is like to wake up 3-5 times a week in the middle of the night and change the sheets?  He didn’t want to wear the underwear (pull ups) he felt humiliated, so we used the disposable bed pads.  It was both tough on us, because I tried so hard not to get mad, but in the middle of the night, you aren’t always rational.  The worst though is how it affected Peyton, he would pretend that it didn’t bother him, but now and again he would just breakdown and cry and ask me if he will ever be able to get married or go to college?  Completely heartbreaking!  Be patient, as my poor son is slowly entering pre-adolescence and he still wets his bed, his self confidence just crushed.   I pursued another option put together by some psychologist in Israel.  He actually had some beneficial tips, his thing had a mat with tiny electric wires, and an alarm system.  The whole deep sleep component however was missing from his method.  We tried that method over and over for a couple of years.  I was struggling and felt horrible for my son, who was now in 5th grade, and they had a science camp activity.  He was only gone for 3 nights, but he literally had cotton underwear with little pads in them shoved in the bottom of his sleeping bag.  So when he got in at night he would put them on.  Then in the morning he would take them off and if wet, he would just run to the common bathroom and throw them away wrapped in a paper towel.  It turned out he really just dribbled in them and left them in the bag, after 2 nights the smell wasn’t too bad, but by the time he got home I could tell it needed to be changed.   This was so tough for him socially, and he is a happy well-liked kid in school, very active and has lots of friends.

As he entered 6th grade, nothing was working, and I was at my wits end.  I stayed up all night researching something that could help him.  Peyton also was diagnosed by a pediatric neurologist with being “overactive” not ADD or ADHD, but very active.  He also has tics, so he was suggested to take some magnesium and B6, that seemed to calm down the tics.  Poor kid, what more could he have to decrease his self-confidence, but he is always happy on the outside, but I know deep down it really hurt him.

He has always been a VERY DEEP sleeper, very groggy in the am, and lots of mumbling at night.  I found your bedwetting program information through a google search online, and you had actual research to back it, and mentioned the connection with the deep sleep and how helping the individual work on achieving healthy sleeping patterns, how this can help with things like over activity, and possible other neurological things.

It took us less than a year, although after 5 months, he really was having episodes that were VERY infrequent.  What a difference from the wetting every night.  You have helped so much in this whole process, you helped me feel that we aren’t the only ones, and Peyton although he would only talk to me about it, it helped him have more self-confidence.  So far, he has been dry completely for almost 4 months now.

We officially graduated a couple of weeks ago.  We got him a new bed, sheets, and comforter.  He is so happy, and his self confidence is up, the other wonderful thing is, his tics are a lot less noticeable and some days I don’t even see them.  We aren’t taking the supplements for them either, so I truly believe it has had a positive effect on them.  We aren’t on the edge of our seat anymore in the middle of the night if I hear something, and in the morning when I wake up, I am no longer feeling his bed to see if it is wet.   You have changed our lives and have helped my sweet son.  I can’t thank you enough.  At one time I felt like it was going to be a lifelong struggle for my son, and to know that it is no longer part of his life, is priceless.  This is the best program for anyone with Enuresis.  Thank you, thank you and THANK YOU!  What a journey, and the fact that we no longer live with it, is beyond words!

Sincerely and forever grateful,

Melissa M
Saratoga, NY

Author Michael Stallsmith, M.A., Sp. A., Director of Treatment

The Enuresis Treatment Center’s Director of Treatment is also a school psychologist.  Michael Stallsmith has, over the past 20 years, been involved in over 20,000 cases.  He is responsible for overseeing the counselors on our staff who work directly with the patients, and he is effective at implementing what’s needed for any challenging situations that may arise during treatment.

Michael continues his outreach with the medical community and school systems educating them about bedwetting and its relationship to the non-arousable sleep disorder.  Michael has been on staff at the Enuresis Treatment Center since 1982.

Click her to learn about our Critical Factors for Success https://nobedwetting.com/critical-factors-success/

Scientists discuss deep sleep and treatment for bedwetting

Interview with two scientists discussing deep sleep, the bedwetting problem and bedwetting program and treatment for bedwetting.

Erica: First let me just say, the wetting has been part of our lives — he wet basically every single day of his life. It wasn’t just an occasional thing. So it was a real problem, and It became clear he wasn’t outgrowing it. We had tried some behavior therapy, we had tried an alarm, and it didn’t wake him up sufficiently. It was getting really frustrating.

We talked to our pediatrician who said the alarm is the best thing. One time when he went away to camp, he used some medication, which actually didn’t even work that well. We were never planning on that as a long term thing. It was just to try so he could go to camp.

Barbara: Excellent.

Erica: We really were frustrated, and I came across your website during some of my investigations. Quite frankly, my husband and I are both researchers. We’re scientists. I was struck by this information on the sleep cycle that you had in your description of the problem. That caught my eye for a couple reasons. One was this disruption of REM sleep that was discussed. Jerry never remembered having dreams, and I always thought that was really strange, and so that resonated as true with our experience.

Then I went back to the actual scientific article that you cited there, and read some of the research. This paper in Science, which is one of the premier scientific journals—we know it has hard criteria to get in. So that was the original paper that was cited. I was actually really surprised that not many people had done anything with this.

I was really struck by your story about finding this information about the sleep cycle, and following it up to help your daughter. But I filed the information away for awhile, and still things weren’t going very well with Jerry. We finally decided —he was 9 and a half, almost 10, and we said we have to do something about this. I was a little concerned that it was, you know remote—we are in CA and you guys are in MI, but I decided to have a phone interview.

Gaile is who we spoke to for the first time, and she was great. It sounded really —I was impressed by what appeared to be the comprehensiveness of the program. It was working to address the sleeping problem, which is the core of bedwetting problems, I now understand.

Jerry: Which is somewhat counter­intuitive and not well-known, I should say. Most people don’t think of it as a sleep disorder or problem.

Barbara: Exactly. They know the child sleeps deeply, but they don’t connect it to being the cause of the bedwetting.

Erica: Right, but we knew something was up with Jerry. Number one, the dreaming thing I always thought was very odd. And then the alarm thing…we bought one of the more expensive alarms, but he didn’t wake up. The pediatrician suggested we get the kind that a hand comes up and slaps you in the face. (laughter).

This notion of being in a deep deep sleep never came up, but it kind of rang true for us. Deep sleep bedwetting is what our son was experiencing.  Seeing that this scientific study on the EEG pattern to corroborate that convinced me at least that there was a sound basis behind your approach. I was impressed with what Gaile told us about the various elements of your bedwetting program, and we set up our first appointment. We just decided we needed to try something.

The way the program worked with the private phone meetings every two weeks, the forms, and the help available whenever we needed it. Even though there were several stages involved, and as long as everybody’s committed to making it work, it’s a very comprehensive program, and it’s not that hard to follow. I think you guys make it easy to keep track.

Barbara: It’s a complicated bedwetting problem, but without our guidance and education, it would be enormously difficult.  You said you failed to stop bed wetting for your son.

Jerry: That’s what I’m impressed with, actually, is the kind of systematic way you approach this. From sleep, bladder, muscle control; from a brain perspective. You’re really hitting all parts of the body. By the way, one thing that Erica and I agree on—I’m sure you guys are doing this— but most of the pediatricians we’ve talked to have never heard of this, and they really need to know about your bedwetting program.

Erica: That’s where people go to with this…they talk to their pediatrician.

Jerry: Our pediatrician was telling us he should take the medicine.

Erica: No, she wasn’t. She mentioned a bedwetting alarm. She said he could take medicine, but that it will come back as soon as he stops it. So she wasn’t advocating drugs. But we gave her information about your enuresis program, and I have a friend who is a medical social worker who specializes in pediatrics. I was telling her about this and gave her the deep sleep bedwetting information about your program so she can tell her clients. This really needs to be disseminated to the people who are dealing with the care of children.

Barbara: You can certainly appreciate our uphill battle for 41 years. We’ve tried in every way to educate the professionals, particularly pediatricians. Of course we all go to our pediatrician first, but they just sort of dismiss it. They don’t really understand it. It doesn’t mean they aren’t good doctors, it just means they don’t understand bedwetting. So typically, they give the worst advice.

Erica: After I first encountered your program and the paper in Science that you originally cited, I then went to look to see who is doing research on enuresis and children. There is hardly anybody in the United States doing anything. In fact, there is a big group in the Netherlands doing stuff. They have some papers where they cited the original paper you cited as well. One issue might be just that this is not an area of research in this country, apparently.

Barbara: Again, because no one understands the real impact. They don’t understand the sleep disorder and how that effects the child physically, emotionally, and psychologically. Again, in every country we work with families—like Australia, France, Russia, Mexico—all doctors say the same thing. They give the worst advice: Don’t worry about the bedwetting problem..they’ll outgrow it. Then they say to restrict fluids, take them to the bathroom in the night, punitive measures; reward them.

And to reward for something or to scold for anything that is out of their control simply isn’t fair. Then they’ll offer to try an alarm. And then oh my goodness…we had a family in California with a 19 year old—you can appreciate— her son slept through two earthquakes. These children don’t hear bed wetting alarms. They don’t even hear smoke alarms, and that’s disconcerting.

Erica: My social worker friend knows mothers with young children. There will be three or four people whom she knows who have kids with bedwetting problems, and she has referred them to me, and then I refer them to you. The other thing that is really important for anybody who is considering the program is listening to what we’re talking about right now is that because we come from a scientific background, we tend to be quite skeptical. We don’t buy the ads. I was very skeptical when we saw the 97% success rate, like how can that possibly be.

Greg: And the money­-back guarantee.

Erica: But here we are. We were worried that Jerry would have a lifelong problem. But as soon as we started going with your bedwetting program and seeing what it did and pulling out all the stops and making all the connections between the bladder and the brain—working with the sleep disturbance, working with the bladder capacity, working on the sphincter—all these things to try to take every angle on the problem, we were very, very impressed. It wasn’t a matter of belief, sounds cool”—it was working. Before you even get to the endpoint, you can see how it was working.

Barbara: Many people do have a lifelong problem with bedwetting.

Erica: Yes, I know you treat adults, too.

Barbara: Yes, and currently, our oldest patient is 44. And the older one gets, the more challenges they encounter, which can include social isolation and leading very solitary lives because they would rather be alone than have to share or speak about this to anyone. All around the world, bedwetting and its challenges has such a high impact on everyone. It is a shame that the professionals don’t understand.

Let’s speak a little bit about Jerry and how this has changed his life.

Greg: Fortunately, we never made a big deal about it. We were very careful not to be putative all along, so he’s never developed a real problem about it. But it was quite clear that he felt ashamed or guilty or whatever…pretty typical stuff. He clearly didn’t want his friends knowing about it. I used to have a bedwetting problem for awhile—and I still have issues with sleep—and I remember that feeling. But then all of a sudden, he would sleep over at someone’s house and not pee, and that was great when he completed your treatment and he was was able to stay dry and not have to worry about it.

Erica: What we used to do, he would do sleepovers, and then he even went to camp once before we were in your bedwetting program, and he would take a Pull­Up and would be discreet; put it away in a plastic bag. He was actually pretty well ­adjusted around it. He didn’t seem to feel stigmatized. But it was this thing that he always had to take care of. We were always crossing our fingers saying, he doesn’t leak”. He would be mortified if they found out. It’s just been so liberating for him—I can tell—not to have to think about it. Like being over at a friend’s house and to be asked last minute, have to worry about going home and getting stuff and having the bag—just that he doesn’t have to worry about it.

Barbara: Just not to have to think about it, even! It’s an “Do you want to sleep over” over­night that he can jump into.

Erica: It’s sooo nice. For me as a parent—he’s a really bright kid, he’s a well-­liked kid, well­-accomplished….I always used to think: Here’s this great kid, and there’s this one thing. It got to the point when I first called you guys that I was feeling like— we’ve got to help him. We’ve tried a number of other things trying to prevent bed wetting, but we thought we’ve got to get him out of this. And it worked.

Barbara: You all handled this enuresis problem very well, too. You understood that his worst fear would be that somebody will find out.

Some people don’t handle it as well as you did in that they scold and blame the child for being lazy, that sort of thing. That’s wonderful for him that you understood. And, of course, Greg, you understood having experienced bedwetting first­hand

Greg: Right. It’s it’s definitely changed ­ not the least of which is that we don’t have to do the wash every day.

Erica: Oh yes, we have a drought here in California. So it suddenly occurred to me—I guess it was by the middle of the spring— i realized “I’m not doing wash every day, Greg!” That was great, too!

Barbara: I remember a story years ago, at the end of treatment, a child was complaining saying, Miss Barbara, my mom and dad only change my sheets once a week now. That’s no fair”. And then you realize that his whole life they had washed sheets every day. He thought that was normal. He hadn’t realized that he’s not in a hotel! (laughter). You realize that that was common for him. And then there was a child that I spoke to who said he had a dream for the first time. It was the first time that he had ever experienced a dream. It was phenomenal for him! He was describing “Oh, I saw this and that, and it was in color”. You realize something so simple like a dream never happens.

Erica: It used to make me feel — this is something I paid attention to with the treatment. I did notice him having dreams more.

I haven’t asked him lately as much. That always was weird to me that he didn’t because he has such a great memory. It suggested to me that he wasn’t having them. It always kind of broke my heart a little bit that he wasn’t experiencing dreaming.

Barbara: Because you know how important that is to brain health and how one functions during the day. Dream sleep is such an important part of getting quality sleep.

Erica: Yes, so I did notice a difference in that. It’s interesting. I haven’t asked about it lately, but I will now.

Barbara: Particularly with your backgrounds, you know how lack of dreaming and how it can cause frustration during the day, or anxiety or moodiness. Sometimes because of the poor quality sleep and lack of dreaming, they are misdiagnosed as having ADD and ADHD.  Almost daily we talk with parents who are dealing with bedwetting and ADHD.

Erica: Fortunately, that was one of the things that he’s never had trouble with. This is also another reason that we would have never thought about a sleep problem with Jerry because he is pretty high energy, and compared to a lot of kids, he doesn’t seem to need a long night’s sleep. He never was drowsy during the day or not focusing or whatever. The main way it came out was with the bedwetting and the lack of dreaming.

Barbara: I’m so happy that we had the opportunity to help him. Those last two months at the end of treatment being totally dry must have been very refreshing for all of you. Erica/

Greg: Oh yes!  How to stop wetting the bed was a topic of conversation routinely.

Barbara: Until you get all of the components — you can try little bits and pieces and get part of the puzzle—but unless you get all of the components, one is not going to be successful with ending bedwetting and changing the pattern of sleep.

Erica: I also think that being a part of the program has a motivational kick to it. Especially with Jerry who didn’t really want to wet the bed, but also seemed to be ok with it, on some superficial level at least. Having the structure—all these things that we were doing— kind of got him fully on board with the process. Don’t you agree, Greg?

Greg: Yes.

Erica: Even though we tried other enuresis approaches, there was no getting away from this one, and I think that helped.

Barbara: With every failure experience, it makes it more and more difficult for a child. I’m glad we were able to help him while he was 10 years old instead of 18 years old and graduating from high school and can’t go away to college.

Greg: That would be a nightmare, yeah.

Barbara: People just sort of give up after awhile and resign themselves to thinking “I may be wetting the bed the rest of my life”.

Erica: Do you do follow­up with people, like a year later or anything like that?

Barbara: Yes, we have an automatic follow­up checking with families to make sure there are no difficulties. And we tell everyone— as I’m sure you were told—that if you ever have any situation in the future where you need our help, you only need to call. No matter if it’s five years or 10 years.

Erica: Lori did tell us that. She was wonderful.

Barbara: She’s a wonderful Treatment Advisor and very caring. Being a nurse, she has the medical background if we need some knowledge, although we’re not doing anything medical. But it’s nice to have all the professional background for the Treatment Advisors like we have to develop individualized bedwetting programs.

Well, thank you very, very much. Our very best to all of you. We appreciate the opportunity to help make a difference and change his life. And of course, it changes the family’s life.

Erica: It does, and we are very, very grateful to you folks, and to you for developing this program. I cannot image adolescent bedwetting.

Barbara: I’ve had my long struggle, also. But it’s nice to be able now to help others. Just as when you spoke with Gaile, she is kind of giving back what was given to her. Her heart and soul is in it, so that makes a difference.

Erica: I really enjoyed talking with her a lot.

Barbara: Good, I appreciate that. Everyone here tries to be as helpful as possible. That’s why we’re here six days a week. If someone needs help, they only need to call.

Erica: Just one last thing about Gaile. I was very impressed with her because I was very skeptical, so I was challenging her with understanding more about your bedwetting program with a bunch of different questions, and this and that, and she was just so non-defensive. It actually really spoke to her confidence in the program. She answered everything clearly. She understood my skepticism. She acknowledged legitimate questions. She offered guidance and pointed me in directions whenever possible. She said she’d get back to me on things, and I was very impressed by that. It played a big role in moving further with it, I think.

Barbara: I thank you very much. By the way, Erica. I was a very challenging mom, also. It think that’s what you have to be, because we are the only advocate for our children. We appreciate what it takes.

Erica: Yes. I’m really glad I pushed forward with this one, I’ll tell you.

Barbara: Thank you again, Greg and Erica! We are so happy for your family!

GaileGaile Nixon,
International Director and First Patient of ETC